All Of Your Questions About Our New Downtown Location Answered


With just about half of a month left of Black Sheep being open, and a remaining four days of Dumb Records being open at it’s current location, we feel we are finally ready to reveal information to you regarding our new space in 2019. A lot of you have been asking questions, so we feel it is appropriate to present all of the answers to your questions in this FAQ format.

A couple of days ago, Dumb Records posted all over social media pictures of a giant face taking up a storefront downtown, without any explanation as to what was going on.

Where did that face come from? Who is that?

It just came from googling “old man mask” in image search.

Where are you all moving to?

416 and 418 East Monroe Street. This includes the space where the face is filling the window and also the space next to it (both inside spaces pictured above). There is a doorway on the inside connecting both spaces. 

Will one side be the store and one side be for shows?

Yes. We actually would like to use both sides during the day as a record store, then have the bigger space (416 E Monroe) able to transform into a show space by clearing out all of record carts or tables.

Will you do shows as often as you do now?

Probably eventually. We would like to continue to see all kinds of events in the new space. But we are thinking we will start the first months of being open out small to test the waters, probably just one show a weekend tops.

Is it bigger or smaller?

Both spaces are slightly smaller than Black Sheep and Dumb Records now, but since they are connected and we plan on utilizing both of them for a store space during the day, we potentially have more to work with than before. Back rooms in the 416 space might also allow us to have a back area / green room for bands and performers or other possibilities.

When are you opening?

It’s much too early to say right now! We’re taking this one thing at a time and are focusing on moving out of our current location first. We do have a few ducks to get in a row with some slight adjustments to the space to be up to code with the zoning and fire departments. We will definitely not be announcing any type of opening date until we are completely squared away with all of that. There is also a good chance we will be opening up the store portion before hosting any events for a while.

Are you still keeping the names Black Sheep and Dumb Records?

For simplicity’s sake, we are just calling the new space Dumb Records.

So Black Sheep is done forever?

That’s not really how we see it, our system of running a record and show space side-by-side is still going to be the same and the same people are going to be involved setting up shows. The name and location are changing, yes.

Will the walls be covered in graffiti like Black Sheep?

No. Maybe some murals for now.

Will the owners still be the same?

It’s probably safe to say that no one’s involvement with the new space will be any less. And also as with Dumb Records and Black Sheep, there is also plenty of room for others to be involved with behind the scenes work.

What’s going to happen to Southtown Sound?

Unfortunately Southtown Sound ended soon after Kyle Noonan took a recording engineering job elsewhere in Southern Illinois earlier this year. He had been running Southtown Sound for over a full year. The equipment went to others that plan on continuing recording bands and projects in their own homes (the CFP house). There is no studio planned for our new space, but who knows – we are moving downtown where nearby spaces that are opening up could lead to other things happening!

What’s going to happen to where Black Sheep and Dumb Records are now?

George says he’s going to sell records out of the record store. He also put a giant FOR RENT sign in our window. As for Black Sheep, we have no idea.

What’s going to happen to Dumb Fest?

That’s a tough question right now! Right now our attention is focused on this move going smoothly and us finishing out Black Sheep the end of this year. This is usually the time of year when we are starting planning for Dumb Fest in June. Unfortunately we will not have a venue and skatepark for shows side by side and our setup in the new spot is not anywhere near ideal for a three-day punk festival. This might mean that we are taking a break from Dumb Fest for this year, maybe we’ll have a “mini-Dumb Fest”, maybe we won’t be able to hold any Dumb Fests at all. We do however think that getting our foot in the door downtown is going to lead to us discovering other potential spots for all ages shows to happen, so we are optimistic about another maybe SXSW style festival put on by Dumb Records in the future.

We are also limited to other bigger festival-type shows at the new location (even Black Sheep Fest). There is a good chance that we will do more ticket-presale shows that actually sell out or cap off after a certain number of tickets are sold.

What’s going to happen to The Black Sheep Radio Show?

It’s not going anywhere! Still keeping our regular slot from 4-6pm on 88.3 WQNA fm. You mean someone out there actually listens?!?

Can my band play at the new space?

Yes, but we aren’t ready yet! As we said earlier, we aren’t announcing any sort of start date until all of the logistics with our space are squared away. This means we are set on not putting anything on our calendar until then.

Can I set up a show at the new space?

Once we are able to open up, yes we do want to encourage anyone who wants to to set up shows. We will have some sort of system in place for booking that will hopefully be simple and make sense for everyone.

How can I help?

A lot of you have been reaching out about helping us move! Just check the Black Sheep facebook group for updates regarding us moving. We won’t be moving everything all in one night, likely spread out over the course of this next month. We will also likely need help building, painting, and getting the new space ready. You can also check the Black Sheep group for that, and we’ll try to put up posts on this site on what we need help with every so often.

Also it probably goes without being said, but right now we need support in terms of everyone coming out to our last shows at our current location! There are currently eight shows left. We will have a donation jar set up to take donations that will help us with moving expenses (there are a lot of costs involved with opening up a new space). If we are short on funding once all of our shows in the old space are done, we might look to more online crowd funding to cover expenses if needed. You can also make donations online by Paypal-ing us directly right here!

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